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http://news.yahoo.co...-190210006.html

In the wake of last week's presidential election, thousands of Americans have signed petitions seeking permission for their states to peacefully secede from the United States. The petitions were filed on We the People, a government website.
States with citizens filing include Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee and Texas. Oddly, folks from Georgia have filed twice. Even stranger, several of the petitions come from states that went for President Barack Obama.
The petitions are short and to the point. For example, a petition from the Volunteer State reads: "Peacefully grant the State of Tennessee to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government." Of all the petitions, Texas has the most signatures so far, with more than 23,000.
Of course, this is mostly a symbolic gesture. The odds of the American government granting any state permission to go its own way are on par with winning the lottery while getting hit by a meteor while seeing Bigfoot while finding gluten-free pizza that tastes like the real thing.
An article from WKRC quotes a University of Louisville political science professor who explained that these petitions aren't uncommon. Similar petitions were filed following the 2004 and 2008 elections. Still, should the petitions garner 25,000 signatures in a month, they will require an official response from the Obama administration.
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The right to petition your government is guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution. We the People provides a new way to petition the Obama Administration to take action on a range of important issues facing our country. We created We the People because we want to hear from you. If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure it's sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response.

Not everybody who wants to secede is polite enough to write a petition. Peter Morrison, treasurer of the Hardin County (Texas) Republican Party, wrote a post-election newsletter in which he urges the Lone Star State to leave the Union.


"We must contest every single inch of ground and delay the baby-murdering, tax-raising socialists at every opportunity. But in due time, the maggots will have eaten every morsel of flesh off of the rotting corpse of the Republic, and therein lies our opportunity... Why should Vermont and Texas live under the same government? Let each go her own way in peace, sign a free trade agreement among the states and we can avoid this gut-wrenching spectacle every four years."

An interesting development we got here...

Who wants to take bets on a civil war in the near future? I'm betting it all!
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Not a chance for civil war. The governments of those states would not secede, ever, because the federal government gives them too much money for them to want to cut themselves off from it.
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This has made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.

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Saw this link from a borderline extreme conservative friend of mine. I wonder how supportive these people would be once they realized that seceding from the U.S. would mean that most, if not all, of the federal funding they get would go away. Not to mention the people that would lose their jobs or take a serious pay-cut because their career is linked to the federal government, or the paperwork and red tape that would suddenly be involved with people that work from out-of-state.

To me, petitioning for seceding is just going one step further past demanding a recount. Your candidate lost the election. Get over it. If you truly feel that there's no hope left for the country, then find a way to leave. I'm sure there are other places that would love to have you. Maybe Uganda.

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If you truly feel that there's no hope left for the country, then find a way to leave.

Isn't that kind of what they're doing? ;) Merkins are lazy, they're trying to leave without actually moving.

Honestly, though. Let them secede if they want it so badly. Award them everything south of the Mason-Dixon line, and stop sending federal aid to Every. Last. One. Of. Them.
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Man this is going to be one messy divorce proceeding.
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Bunch of angry people who are pissed Mitt isn't in charge, not really surprised. They are free to voice their opinions as much as they like and they will only cross the link when actual violence is involved. I'm sure most of them actually believe this will work which is kind of sad but considering where its coming from not really surprised. Hell a state like Missouri gets so much federal funding they would collapse in a heart beat if they left.
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Im still waiting for us in Cascadia to break off from the rest of you.

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Honestly, though. Let them secede if they want it so badly. Award them everything south of the Mason-Dixon line, and stop sending federal aid to Every. Last. One. Of. Them.

Aw, I like Florida. It's pretty down there. :(
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They want NY, NJ to secede?

Why not California as well? Hell I hear that Washington D.C. are having trouble with the election results, I'm sure there are ignorant dullards there as well.

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They want NY, NJ to secede?

Why not California as well? Hell I hear that Washington D.C. are having trouble with the election results, I'm sure there are ignorant dullards there as well.

Irony: NY, NJ & California all pay more in federal taxes than they get back from the federal government. Unlike most of the states that filed these petitions.

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I was so "happy" that AR wasn't on the first link I saw... And then I saw the one on cbs's site today and saw AR there..

Honestly guys, man the fuck up... Am I happy he won? Nope... Am I boohooing like a lil bitch? Nope.. Man up and move on. FFS you should be embarrassed

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Send them all to texas. Agree to grant the state its independence.
Honestly, who wants Texas anyway?
Five years from now it will have degenerated into a distrophia. They can cry and join back the States. Lesson learned. Problem solved.

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I say just cut all the power and let the militias take over.

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Not a chance for civil war. The governments of those states would not secede, ever, because the federal government gives them too much money for them to want to cut themselves off from it.


That's a good point :P

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Residents in more than a dozen states across the country have filed secession petitions to the Obama administration's "We the People" program, which is featured on the White House website.

http://www.huffingto...nk3&pLid=233624

Could this be the start of a second Civil War?

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Not a chance for civil war. The governments of those states would not secede, ever, because the federal government gives them too much money for them to want to cut themselves off from it.


Not just that. Remember that during the civil war state militias and whatnot were on equal footing with the federal army when it came to arms. That is so not true anymore. If any of them were remotely serious all it would take is a phone call saying, "We have 20 snipers outside with those rifles that can take out a tank alng with a missle on its way that will fly right into your window. Shut the fuck up!"

Ironic this has come from States claiming to be 'real' Americans teeming with national pride. Because nothing screams about the heart and spirit of what it means to be American than to want to ditch your county when the rest of it doesn't want to do something your way.

Hey! That's just like the original civil war. I guess that confederate flag is less a symbol of State pride and more of a reminder of when that State was being a baby and a dick.

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I say just cut all the power and let the militias take over.

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Residents in more than a dozen states across the country have filed secession petitions to the Obama administration's "We the People" program, which is featured on the White House website.

http://www.huffingto...nk3&pLid=233624

Could this be the start of a second Civil War?

Went ahead and merged your topic in to this other one, since it's prettymuch the same thing.

Also, as always, it's just a bunch of butthurt southerners, nobody cares about them. They won't do anything except bitch and moan. It's only a democracy if they win.

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I say just cut all the power and let the militias take over.

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I'm fine with that, I'm still part of the Republic.

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You can also sign a petition to deport all the people who signed that petition:
https://petitions.wh...merica/dmQl1bXL
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